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« on: February 01, 2014, 01:09:08 PM »

Hi, I am having a rough day because I am thinking about my ex and only remembering the good stuff... . please tell me the negative side of your experience so I can remember the bad. Mine was a waif/hermit and very high functioning and smart.

Thanks in advance, I need to remember the bad sides.
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2014, 01:17:35 PM »

It helps to make a list of all the unacceptable crap that happened, and review it at times like this.  We've got mixed feelings towards out exes, obviously, if it was all bad we would have left right away.

What would be the first line on your list?
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2014, 01:34:38 PM »

My ex put me through an 18 month roller coaster from hell. Hot... cold... . push... . pull. Constant lies that he could not keep up with. He would "punish me" for things that were trivial and senseless by ignoring me, giving me the silent treatment, texting me mean and nasty things, etc... that I was supposed to just forget about and never question.

Probably the worst thing he ever did was break our engagement.  I believe he asked me impulsively and then quickly changed his mind... . he flew me off to this elaborate weekend and took me a jewelry store and told me to pick out any ring I wanted... he bought it and proposed a few hours later.  A week after he asked me, he messaged me that he was having bad thoughts and then totally shut down and would not speak to me at all.  A week later, broke off the engagement via text message and that was that... hands down worst day of my life. He asked me to meet him in a parking lot at a Walgreens to give the ring back. I gave him the ring back and his lack of emotion during that time was really strange to me... I was crushed and a mess... he was expressionless/detached/distant. He wouldn't look at me, he had zero emotion, just took the ring and zipped off home. I had no idea what in the hell had just happened... I was in complete and total shock and totally heartbroken. He follows up 5 days later asking me if I would consider a "friends with benefits" type relationship... Nice eh?
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2014, 01:39:42 PM »

First on my list would be a tie between her passive aggressive behavior, and the break ups out of the blue over something minor I did years earlier. For example the last one was over a tshirt that I didn't buy 5 years before (I am not kidding)
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2014, 02:08:02 PM »

Hey Tincup,

Sorry you are having a rough day.  I was having one yesterday and slowly and surely the cloud lifted.  I too was thinking about the good stuff and my "tricky brain" was stuck on thinking I overreacted to the emotional abuse which turned to physical abuse in the end.  I went back to the 15 typed pages of crud my uBPD/NPD put me through and then added my feelings to it.  That helped a lot.  All I can say is that my situation started to turn physical in the end and I had to think about what I would tell my 15 year old daughter if she said a friend or bf did this stuff to her.  Reach for your true self, the one who knows the behavior of your ex was unacceptable and let the good memories play out in your mind as they need to.  Have a good cry, journal or take a nice walk.  Your life free of this crud is ahead of you!  Smiling (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2014, 02:21:44 PM »

Hi tincup, sorry you're having a rough time. I know how hard it is to put this kind of grief behind us. It's good that you are attempting not to split the good from the bad and acknowledging that you were attached to a whole person that possess both qualities. A sure sign of healing. I understand also the need to expell the destructive memories from your self and begin the self examination part of healing. I won't go into great detail about the ex and her bad side. Just know that it is there and it is more than I want to deal with anymore. For every hot chick there are guys that are sick of her crap. You just keep on plugging at it and you will eventually end up in a place where it doesn't matter anymore.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2014, 02:32:14 PM »

Start with the breakup and work backwards.

You'll see what lead you there.

Better yet, start with the breakup and move forward.

See how that leads you away from there.
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2014, 02:32:56 PM »

Hi tincup, sorry you're having a rough time. I know how hard it is to put this kind of grief behind us. It's good that you are attempting not to split the good from the bad and acknowledging that you were attached to a whole person that possess both qualities. A sure sign of healing. I understand also the need to expell the destructive memories from your self and begin the self examination part of healing. I won't go into great detail about the ex and her bad side. Just know that it is there and it is more than I want to deal with anymore. For every hot chick there are guys that are sick of her crap. You just keep on plugging at it and you will eventually end up in a place where it doesn't matter anymore.

Perfidy, you do indeed consistently crack me up. "For every hot chick there are guys that are sick of her crap". No truer words were spoken. Doing the right thing (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2014, 02:53:15 PM »

Some of the many things that were bad that my ex did to me:

-She would always make me feel bad if I said no to something that she wanted

- She would make me feel horrible if I had a difference in opinion about something that she was complaining about her family

-If I tried to stay neutral between her and her parents, I would sometimes get accused of not caring or taking other's side

-She lied to her parents and let them continue to believe that I had thrown her down a flight of stairs after our second breakup, when in reality she had self harmed herself the previous night and didn't want to risk getting kicked out of her grandmother's house

-She would make promises upon promises to help me clean my mom's house(she was staying with me at the time) and every single day nothing would be cleaned except new piles of crap to get thrown out

- She never fully paid me back for a new laptop I bought her, a new pair of glasses, etc

-She would just snap at me for no apparent reason

- She would get mad when I wouldn't initiate physical contact with her, but sometimes when I would she would get all mad at me too

- She would get mad at me if I asked her questions, such as what would she do if her ex fiance(he's married now, recovering heroin and alcoholic) called her up and asked to meet up with her

- She would make plans with me and then cancel on me last minute, and then if I had something come up, I would get yelled at

- She got all mad/upset when I lost a ten dollar ring she bought me, but when she lost the more expensive engagement ring I bought her. She disappeared(the third time) and didn't tell me till after we had gotten back together that was the reason why she left me

-She pops in/out of my life without really explaining to me what the heck is going on.

There's more... . but im starting to cry so I figured I'd stop now while I am ahead...

Good luck buddy

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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2014, 02:59:51 PM »

My ex kicked me out of her car 10 miles from anywhere and didn't come back to get me.
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2014, 03:02:24 PM »

Ouch... . mine tried to kick me and when i grabbed both of her legs while this was happening, she kept threatening to call the cops on me for attempted rape... .

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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2014, 03:11:59 PM »

My ex pushed me through a 2nd floor window.
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2014, 03:31:48 PM »

Wow... . I am glad that you are okay though... .
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2014, 04:01:39 PM »

the way mine ended it i simply can't think of any of the good times anymore.

Ouch... . mine tried to kick me and when i grabbed both of her legs while this was happening, she kept threatening to call the cops on me for attempted rape... .

while driving once mine kept trying to stick her finger up my nose and when i swatted her hand away she started crying and said "you said you would never hit me!"

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2014, 04:05:01 PM »

the way mine ended it i simply can't think of any of the good times anymore.

Ouch... . mine tried to kick me and when i grabbed both of her legs while this was happening, she kept threatening to call the cops on me for attempted rape... .



while driving once mine kept trying to stick her finger up my nose and when i swatted her hand away she started crying and said "you said you would never hit me!"

LMAO!

This is the most BPD thing I've ever heard. Sums it up perfectly.
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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2014, 04:06:52 PM »

Any time I missed him and wanted contact, I would read my saved emails from him, listen to the vm's he left, listen to the tape recorded fights we had, read the text messages.

I had also kept a journal.  I would read that also.

I would remember the last year together.  He had only talked to me 35 days that year, and those days I walked on eggshells trying not to set him off again, then I would remember that most of the good times we had, weren't really good anyway because I was waiting for the ticking bomb to go off.

I would remember how I was afraid to be me !
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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2014, 04:20:30 PM »

mY BPDexgf regularly reminded me that "I was only crying because of the previous gf who had breast cancer and died" (young)... .    Red flag/bad  (click to insert in post)

The fact that she'd been screaming at me, devaluing me and humiliating me of course was NOT (?) the reason. 

Oh she took me to a conference called 'freedom from fear'... .   didn't really understand that she was the one putting me in fear.  Naturally, my sadness had nothing to do with her raking up the past, using the info i'd confided to her... . and generally scaring the life out of me. 

She'll be at church tomorrow, 2-3 services consecutively.  I could even guess her seat position.  God loves her... .   thankfully.  He can look after her.   
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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2014, 04:22:31 PM »

Hi, I am having a rough day because I am thinking about my ex and only remembering the good stuff... . please tell me the negative side of your experience so I can remember the bad. Mine was a waif/hermit and very high functioning and smart.

Thanks in advance, I need to remember the bad sides.

When I walk down memory lane, I think it looks a lot like Main Street like in Mayberry. Filled with Norman Rockwell-Saturday evening post-Esc people and places. But as I look at the trees, the birds, the buildings and the people. I realize I'm not actually in any real town, in walking through a soundstage in Hollywood. The set where my relationship was filmed. To those watching at home it looked real. But to those involved it was simply a production for entertainment. I red from the script he gave me, and he read his lines. The birds? Fake, the trees they best in? Fake. The cars have no engines, and the buildings, walk into one... . it's just a plywood facade.

The minute I went off script and the show became less of a sitcom and more reality TV. They can't handle it. Reality is what they are running from. Reality is painful for them, it's a reminder of all their hurt and trauma. They want to stay in Mayberry where everything is predictable and safe. But that life is not sustainable. At some point the show has to end and people have to go on with real life and deal with the cruel world. But they don't want to budge from I front of the TV they simply change the channel to find another distraction. A distraction from themselves, who they don't know. A distraction from all the pain and trauma they refuse to deal with.

When I ruminate, I just remember I was tired of reading from the fairy tale. I knew we couldn't escape real life for long. Everytime I tried to get him to walk through it with me, live it with me and build a real house on a real street in a real town. Plant real trees to attract real birds. He didn't want to do the work. He defeats himself in his mind and resented me for making him try. It's safer in the fantasy, inside the bubble where they at in control and nothing can hurt them. Problem with their bubble? There is only room for one. No matter how hard you try to fit in there you won't. You'll always be on the outside of it. You are what it's protecting them from. Because you to will hurt them and you to will leave them. Just like all the rest. How can you win out with someone who thinks and feels this way? You can't and no one ever will. It's an effort in futility.

So just remember when on memory lane. Thee were good moments, but was it really what we needed? To be happy? To be supports, Loved and card for the way we deserve. No we weren't because it was never about is. We tried to play reality they wants us to play a character in a show... . When it got real they changed the channel.

 
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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2014, 04:25:50 PM »

Sorry for all the typos! I access the site from my phone. Tiny keyboard!
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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2014, 04:40:28 PM »

The incredibly sad thing about it... is that I only told you half of the crap that occured in our relationship... .

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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2014, 04:56:26 PM »

Hey Tincup,

Sorry you are having a rough day.  I was having one yesterday and slowly and surely the cloud lifted.  I too was thinking about the good stuff and my "tricky brain" was stuck on thinking I overreacted to the emotional abuse which turned to physical abuse in the end.  I went back to the 15 typed pages of crud my uBPD/NPD put me through and then added my feelings to it.  That helped a lot.  All I can say is that my situation started to turn physical in the end and I had to think about what I would tell my 15 year old daughter if she said a friend or bf did this stuff to her.  Reach for your true self, the one who knows the behavior of your ex was unacceptable and let the good memories play out in your mind as they need to.  Have a good cry, journal or take a nice walk.  Your life free of this crud is ahead of you!  Smiling (click to insert in post)

I love when you have a certain feeling for a while, and you can come to these boards and someone has had the same exact feelings.  After 14 years of silent treatments, push/pull, manipulations, dysregulation, shut down of speech when trying to talk about issues that present a problem in the RS, I began to think that saying it louder or yelling, or getting angry (fear of abandonment again), would get her to open up to me more, that she would see I TRULY cared, but nothing worked.  I think, the truth is, I checked out long ago.

This is validation for me.  Thanks, Madison.
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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2014, 05:54:21 PM »

My ex once dropped couple of oranges on the kitchen floor and started playing with them and when I was still shocked looking at him he started strangling me and kept asking me to tell him I'm the crazy one!
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« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2014, 06:00:31 PM »

My ex once dropped couple of oranges on the kitchen floor and started playing with them and when I was still shocked looking at him he started strangling me and kept asking me to tell him I'm the crazy one!

oh Pearl, I know it wasn't funny then, but the way you worded that, wow.

Speaking of kitchen floors.  I washed the kitchen floor one day while my ex was at work.  He of course came home 2 hours late, I already put dinner away, he walked in, I just glanced at the clock.  Didn't say a word.  He then began raging at me because the floor was so clean, you could eat off of it.  He said that I loved the kitchen floor more then I loved him.  I never washed that kitchen floor again.   
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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2014, 08:23:02 PM »

speaking of kitchen floors, my w once broke some glass in the kitchen and left some bits on the floor. i discovered this when i walked into the kitchen barefoot, as one might do in one's own house, and cut my feet on it, leaving a nice trail of blood. she said she forgot to tell me. i assured her that there's no problem with breaking a thing, god knows i've done it, but please just tell me next time. two months later ... my w broke some glass in the kitchen and left some bits on the floor. i discovered this when i walked into the kitchen barefoot, as one might do in one's own house, and cut my feet on it, leaving a nice trail of blood. she said she forgot to tell me.
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2014, 04:29:26 AM »

As she and I were breakfasting in town to discuss "us"... . she had her meth head ex (are they ever?) rob my house... . over $30,000.00 in losses on that one. She left town immediately. I suppose she knew all along what my answer to the "us" question was as hers was a well planned mission of... . revenge? I heard later the meth head ex double crossed her and shorted her on fair payout. Then about three months later she sent me a text... . "I still love you and miss you". I figure the money ran out.

I changed ALL my contact information.

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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2014, 05:11:41 AM »

When I ruminate, I just remember I was tired of reading from the fairy tale. I knew we couldn't escape real life for long. Everytime I tried to get him to walk through it with me, live it with me and build a real house on a real street in a real town. Plant real trees to attract real birds. He didn't want to do the work. He defeats himself in his mind and resented me for making him try. It's safer in the fantasy, inside the bubble where they at in control and nothing can hurt them. Problem with their bubble? There is only room for one. No matter how hard you try to fit in there you won't. You'll always be on the outside of it. You are what it's protecting them from. Because you to will hurt them and you to will leave them. Just like all the rest. How can you win out with someone who thinks and feels this way? You can't and no one ever will. It's an effort in futility.

So just remember when on memory lane. Thee were good moments, but was it really what we needed? To be happy? To be supports, Loved and card for the way we deserve. No we weren't because it was never about is. We tried to play reality they wants us to play a character in a show... . When it got real they changed the channel.

 

This! Exactly this!

I felt like a character in a fantasy play, and whenever I wanted to make it real there was sabotage from him. Creating drama, chaos and death around him.

My ex made me an unknowing participant in the suicide of his ex gf, by flirting with me openly, and for her to see and witness,  while they were still togheter. I didnt know, he told me they were seperated  for months ( in good agrement) while he was still in a relationship with her, that he broke of the day we had our first date. On our first date she commited siucide. It is horrible!
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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2014, 06:35:06 AM »

The oddest thing, and one that sticks in my mind because I really can't deny its totally freaky oddness is this:

My son, (18 at the time) fell of a 5m roof while working with his father in the summer holidays.  I had a text from him saying, ':)on't worry mum but I fell off a roof and they think I've fractured my spine.  I'm at the hospital having x-rays'.

The hospital was in the same town where my uBPDbf lived and he arranged to meet me there.  I found my son, who did have a fractured spine, and was panic stricken and upset as you can imagine.  We had to wait around, my son strapped to a bed so he couldn't move, and wait for more x-ray results.

I wondered what was keeping bf and then got a text to say he was out in the corridor as he couldn't just walk into the children's ward.

I went out and found him sat on a bench, he was sobbing.  I asked him what was wrong and he told me that this was the first time he'd been in that hospital since his step father died there 3 years ago! He was drunk.

I was so shocked... . later he accused me of being selfish and not supportive enough of his feelings in that moment.  Red flag/bad  (click to insert in post) city!

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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2014, 06:45:05 AM »

Though, I think your story beats mine Dog biscuit!  That sounds truly horrific for you 

Was that at the beginning of your r/s? 

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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2014, 09:13:00 AM »

Yes, unfortunatly it was... . :-(

I had to put the pieces togheter, but during the r/s the " truth" was well hidden. When I asked him directly it got me nowhere. He gave me various explanations and dates about how and when their r/s ended, only to find out that they were still a couple when he and I started flirting openly on social media. It must have been so hard on her... .

The irony is that I am always really cautious to get involved with someone who is freshly out of a r/s.

If I would have known I wouldnt have gotten involved with him in the first place. I strongly believe someone has to be alone for a while before starting another r/s.

I didnt know, and there was no way I could have.known.

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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2014, 09:41:01 AM »

JYNX-You said that your ex said "you love the kitchen floor more than you loved me". 

someone please explain this type of statement to me?  I got these ALL the time, and they drove me crazy.  I could never defend any of these statements.  The last one I got was that I loved money more than I loved her (over some silly thing I said days before).  I mean I have seen people joke about you love something more than me... but she was serious.  I could really see my ex saying that about the floors... . and worse I could hear myself "trying" to defend myself over it.  No dear I love you much more than the floors! but she would be SERIOUS.  Please explain this type of statement to me!
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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2014, 09:45:31 AM »

tincup,

No matter how hard I try I can't explain "you love the kitchen floor more then you love me".  I thought if I ever told anyone that they would think that I was "nuts".  I even taped that conversation, so I would not think I was making me up.

So after he raged at me for at least 45 minutes, without me saying a word, I got up, with my cup of tea, I spilled it on the floor, and replied, Now the floor isn't clean anymore, is that better?  Then I went out to the garage, went to my car, locked the door, and tried to go to sleep.
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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2014, 10:29:12 AM »

I was a lost boy tried to rescue a broken girl, led into heaven and slowly realised I was left in hell.

Write a list of what you have learnt and leave spaces for what you are still going to learn.
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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2014, 10:39:50 AM »

No matter how hard I try I can't explain "you love the kitchen floor more then you love me".  I thought if I ever told anyone that they would think that I was "nuts".  I even taped that conversation, so I would not think I was making me up.

yup, there was lots i never told anyone because nobody would believe it

So after he raged at me for at least 45 minutes, without me saying a word, I got up, with my cup of tea, I spilled it on the floor, and replied, Now the floor isn't clean anymore, is that better?  Then I went out to the garage, went to my car, locked the door, and tried to go to sleep.

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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2014, 11:16:16 AM »

JYNX-You said that your ex said "you love the kitchen floor more than you loved me". 

someone please explain this type of statement to me?  I got these ALL the time, and they drove me crazy.  I could never defend any of these statements.  The last one I got was that I loved money more than I loved her (over some silly thing I said days before).  I mean I have seen people joke about you love something more than me... but she was serious.  I could really see my ex saying that about the floors... . and worse I could hear myself "trying" to defend myself over it.  No dear I love you much more than the floors! but she would be SERIOUS.  Please explain this type of statement to me!

OK, it took some thinking, but I figured it out.

2 months prior to this, he bought a car for our daughter from a co-worker (his now live in gf), without talking to me about it or discussing it with me.  He went out to a bar to celebrate this with his co-worker?, and called me drunk from the bar.  I got upset because we did not discuss this, even though we were planning on buying our daughter a used car.  He gave me the silent treatment/rages for 3 weeks.  I had planned a trip to Fl to see my mom, and I went.  When I came back from Fl, he was still giving me the silent treatment.

The next day, I had a lot to do.  I had to wash clothes, clean the house (it wasn't done while I was gone), and wash the kitchen floor.  It snowed while I was gone, and you can imagine how dirty a floor will get when people walk back and forth on it with wet muddy shoes.  I could see he was about to explode, so I said is something bothering you, do you want to talk about it. 

He exploded !

He had wanted to have sex because I was gone so long.  (one week), and I was doing everything to avoid him.  I told him I had a lot of things to do that day, it was only noon time, our teenage kids were right there, and can he please wait to discuss this later on.  Well he wouldn't talk to me at all after that for about another 2 weeks.

So, I can only figure out that this is what set him off 2 months later, because I washed the kitchen floor again, while he was out in the bar again with his co-worker?, came home late, had nothing else to go at me for, so he decided I washed the kitchen floor purposely because I didn't love him or want to have sex with him 2 months prior. 

How does that sound for an explanation?
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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2014, 11:30:37 AM »



How does that sound for an explanation?



Neh, doesnt sound crazy enough yet for a full explanation  Smiling (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2014, 12:53:35 PM »

Well I guess I won't ever understand this behavior.  I am relieved to know that others did experience this.  It makes you feel like you are nuts going through it. 

She also broke up with me one time when "I refused to have sex with her".  I had a terrible day at work and went other to see her for a while.  It was so nice to have someone to talk to about my terrible day. When asked me to go to bed with her, I said to her that I really was not in the mood at that time due to my day, but that we could go lay down and snuggle and talk more.  We did that for about an hour, then it got late and I wanted to go home and sleep (we did not live together).  I told her as I was leaving how much I enjoyed laying with her and talking.  I went to kiss her at the door and she turned and I got her cheek.  By the time I got home (5 mins) I had a scathing text telling me that I didn't love her because I wouldn't have sex with her and she broke up right there in a 30 word text... .

Another time I was picking out paint samples for a room in my house.  I brought 3 or 4 samples for her to take a look at because I have problems with colors.  She said which one she liked.  I ended up going with another color and this time we got right to the edge but she didn't break up.  But she did say "I will never give you my opinion again because you don't value it.  when you ask again I will just say whatever you want." 
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« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2014, 01:02:04 PM »

Its funny you can read all these horror stories and possibly still find yourself thinking about the so called good times together that was spent between you two. I hate Super Bowl Sundays. I think I am one of the few guys that I know that actually detests football. I actually find myself debating if I want to swing over to her house in an attempt to talk to her or what not. However, my common sense tells me not to do such an action. I was thinking of all the negative things that occured in our relationship. Its like I am darned if I am with her(because of all the stress that comes with being with her) and darned if I don't(I feel empty and just like I failed her).

I've been watching and reading all I can about BPD and the effects. It helps somewhat, but it also makes me hate myself somewhat. I know I am not at fault, but I still feel as if I was the contributing factor.Sitting here thinking the thing that confuses me to no end is that for the most part, she had pretty supportive parents growing up. Her parents spent time with the kids and even the mom(who is the so called root of the problem) took time off to help raise the kids. Meanwhile, I grew up in a household where both of my parents worked long hours and for the most part, I had to learn all my behaviors on my own, but I still somehow ended up somewhat normal. Maybe I have my own issues, but for the most part, I don't have any abandonment issues. I might if she and I end up back together for the (7th time?). However, I don't get that part...

I am now sitting here thinking about all the stuff she told me. If it was all lies... . I wonder... I hate doubting any of the trauma she might have suffered, but I wonder if it was all for sympathy... Or attention? I wonder... .

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« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2014, 01:30:13 PM »

this one about mine is kinda of funny. It wasnt at the time but a year later it makes me roll. Mine was in the middle of telling me how I never done anything to help her in her life. now, mind you. I washed her dishes, took out her trash, cut her grass, cooked for her on numerous occasions, serviced her sexual most of the time twice a day, washed her clothes and took care of her errands whenever she needed it done, and washed her car for her about once a month. I also maintain my own residence and work 50 plus hours a week. But on this occasion she was telling me how I never do anything for her to help her out in her life. I was shocked and she started naming everything I could have did that week to help her, since she was out of town on business. One thing was finish moving her into her new house from her apartment. When I explained I didnt have keys to get into either place and I reminded her that I had asked her before she left did she want me to and she told me no. and she then said I could have mowed her yard during the week instead of waiting to the weekend. I told her once again I didnt have access to her mower since she had the keys and by the time I got off of work, loaded up my mower, drove to her house that it would be dark, ( she lives about 2 hour drive from me) she then said well you could have washed my car this week. I told her how could I, she was out of town driving it. She got mad and told me I had excuse for everything and hung up on me. LOLLLL.

hows that for a nightmare?
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« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2014, 01:34:24 PM »

Yeah I remember hearing the song of how I never did anything for her either.

I remember one particular time she had promised me up and down the world that she was going to help me clean, but that never happened. And the day it did. about an hour later I heard a complaint about how she was in pain because of her back... .

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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2014, 05:05:14 PM »

As she and I were breakfasting in town to discuss "us"... . she had her meth head ex (are they ever?) rob my house... . over $30,000.00 in losses on that one. She left town immediately. I suppose she knew all along what my answer to the "us" question was as hers was a well planned mission of... . revenge? I heard later the meth head ex double crossed her and shorted her on fair payout. Then about three months later she sent me a text... . "I still love you and miss you". I figure the money ran out.

I changed ALL my contact information.

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I still love you and miss you though shadow

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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2014, 06:46:18 PM »

Yeah Changing... . like a dog loves and misses its bone... . here take my arm... . then my leg... . now chew on my head... . as we discuss did you or did you not rob me.

I remember thinking... . I may be a cur pirate... . but I aint no criminal... . yeah riiiight!... . full steam ahead until I'm dead.
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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2014, 06:50:32 PM »

I hate Super Bowl Sundays. I hate not being able to be near her :-(
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« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2014, 06:56:09 PM »

I hate Super Bowl Sundays. I hate not being able to be near her :-(

She is an elixir

Even though her actions do not endear her

And I have reason to fear her

I still want to hear her

And to be near her

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« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2014, 06:57:31 PM »

I can realistically agree with you there. ALot of her actions totally stress me out to the extreme, but without her, I feel completely and utterly empty... .

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« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2014, 07:00:04 PM »

I can realistically agree with you there. ALot of her actions totally stress me out to the extreme, but without her, I feel completely and utterly empty... .

Addiction is a complex issue. Some see it as a human weakness. Actually it is simply a coping mechanism. It has its justifiable place in the human condition. What I have found is ALL addictions originate from an unfathomable pain.
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« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2014, 07:04:57 PM »

Its ironic bc she even said so herself that she and I come from different raisings. My mom has always been harsh to me and expected a lot from me. My mom has also difficulty in expressing how she feels towards me and my sister. She came from a family that is somewhat more able to express this. Yet, I am the balanced one... go figure?
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« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2014, 07:07:08 PM »

Its ironic bc she even said so herself that she and I come from different raisings. My mom has always been harsh to me and expected a lot from me. My mom has also difficulty in expressing how she feels towards me and my sister. She came from a family that is somewhat more able to express this. Yet, I am the balanced one... go figure?

Typical and quite actually a large component of my personal mantra. Lost boys... . rescue broken girls.

We don't have to always understand.

But then again I'm a dreamin man... . I can't always tell when I'm being real.

I figure it this way. Like the velveteen rabbit, when I'm thread bare and my stitches are unraveling and exposing my stuffing as my eyes are falling off from all the rough rubbing and loving from this one life... . then it gets real... . and worth it.

Loving takes a lot of nerve.
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« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2014, 07:56:17 PM »

It takes guts Shadow, true grit
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« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2014, 03:36:23 AM »

Once we were supposed to have dinner together at 6pm. She was supposed to bring some take-away food home. I had a cold and was very hungry and she came 2h too late. I tried to call her but she didn't pick up her phone (apparently she dropped it when she was outside).

So when she came, I already ate... . and yeah she started to attack me, spilled shampoo and food over my Persian carpet... . she went completely nuts. Eventually I had to call my flatmate in because I was scared that she might attack my TV or something next. She kept telling "why don't you slap me? I know you want it!".

I had to kick her out because she want completely nuts.

This was the first What the heck moment I had. I noticed that something was wrong and it definitely wasn't me... . I can still see the stains of the shampoo in the carpet. I left it there... . when I miss her watching at it reminds of of what a crazy person that once cute girl I thought she was became.
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« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2014, 07:23:25 AM »

hi dansure, nice to see you back.

She kept telling "why don't you slap me? I know you want it!"

once a long time ago i was in the house with a friend and the SO. she and i were upstairs and she wanted to do it, but i didn't with the friend downstairs. after he left she said, "why don't you just tell me to go away if you never want to see me again?"
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« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2014, 08:10:16 AM »

I don't remember the good times really - there's something I can't get my head around how someone could seek a replacement AKA cheat. I remember doing my best for her when she had neighbour issues everyyyyyyyyyy damn summer with the kid upstairs running around at the seaside flat - I went upstairs as the only representative who had ever bothered to speak to them properly f2f from her family - she was searching at lawyers, police, ignoring the child's mother when she came down to broach the issue, etc. So I went up, and then came back down. She thought that I was communicating with the devil and conspiring with the enemy, and treated me thus - she tried to throw me out of the front door - I'd have walked but I didn't have my passport to leave the country, it was in another city - but I stood my ground, literally and metaphorically. Think of the good times for what ends? The woman is insane.
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« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2014, 08:29:58 AM »

Like Allweareisallweare, I dont think much about the good times. They werent what they appeared to be, so there is no reality there to hold on to. It was theater, it was a fantasy lived out, it was not the reality of the r/s.

The reality was that I loved someone who played me bigtime, even when things appeared to be good and cozy.

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« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2014, 08:44:12 AM »

Talking about passport reminds me that we've away on holiday and my ex had his devaluations again and on the last night of our holiday he kept

my passport and kept me awake all night and took out all my stuff from my suitcase and pressuring me to apologize him for what I've done otherwise he won't let me back. This happend about 8 years ago and I still ignored and ignored. I'm so angry with myself! 
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« Reply #53 on: February 03, 2014, 09:19:14 AM »

Hmmm... . so many things.

Here's an awesome one.  A mutual friend of ours suddenly died.  We attended his funeral.  We were standing outside when her best friend rolls up.  We are standing in a circle... . maybe 5 of us.  She (the friend) asks for a light.  I graciously hand her the one in my pocket. 

During the service she is standoffish, and acting weird... . she gets up and walks outside to smoke!  During the damn service!  I'm like what is going on here?  She comes back and sits down away from me.  After the service I sit out in the truck with her quietly ask her what is going on (big mistake) and she starts letting me have it.  We're parked right in front of the funeral home and she is SCREAMING at me.  About how "quick" I was to give her friend a lighter!     She was convinced that I was having an affair with her at that time.  She had already accused me of cheating with her once before because I had some kid's sunscreen (not joking) and her friend had two little girls.    Gotta love that logic!   And another time during forelplay she said I "smelled like an old nasty whore" (inferring that I had sex with her friend before coming over to her house!)    Of course this is all projection cause these are thing she probably would have done.
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« Reply #54 on: February 09, 2014, 03:26:05 PM »

I am having a rough day because I am thinking about my ex and only remembering the good stuff... . please tell me the negative side of your experience so I can remember the bad. Mine was a waif/hermit and very high functioning and smart.

Thanks in advance, I need to remember the bad sides.

you want to read about bad times?  they're plastered all over this website by the hundreds... . thousands... . tens of thousands!   

anyways, i get it, it's therapeutic initially to read other's stories... . but the best bad times to remember would be your own.  journal it, make a list. 

oh, i know!  draw a line down a sheet of paper making 2 columns: "good times" and "bad times".  add to it daily/whenever memories pop up into your conscious.  see which one is bigger. 

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« Reply #55 on: February 09, 2014, 06:38:42 PM »

The minute I went off script and the show became less of a sitcom and more reality TV. They can't handle it. Reality is what they are running from. Reality is painful for them, it's a reminder of all their hurt and trauma. They want to stay in Mayberry where everything is predictable and safe. But that life is not sustainable. At some point the show has to end and people have to go on with real life and deal with the cruel world. But they don't want to budge from I front of the TV they simply change the channel to find another distraction. A distraction from themselves, who they don't know. A distraction from all the pain and trauma they refuse to deal with.

So true!

I had a dream the other night about a mansion on a hill. Everything about it was perfect! Perfect landscaping pool, fixtures etc! My uxBPDgf and I lived there and it was like a reprsentation of heaven. Other people were there also living in the dream world, other men (orbiters I realize now) I was  the central character they all envied that I was the one with my partner! But when I looked closer at the house, gazebo and started to scratch at the surface, it all started crumbling! I was of course blamed for it! Everyone turned on me and I was the scapegoat for peeling back the veneer. At the end of the dream I  literally scrambled for my life to get out of the house as it all collapsed around me. I woke up and understood it instantly. Just a movie stage! When I think about her, what I hate to admit it is all the time, I imagine myself in a bulldozer cleaning up that broken mansion! I burn the wood in a fire and sow the land with salt so nothing can grow there again! It was a fantasy, and I know I can't allow myself to keep going back there!

Coming out of the fog maybe is the toughest part because all the illusions are more clearly seen! It's hard to admit it, but seeing the truth allows me to begin deconstruct the false movie set! When all the pieces are destroyed, I will begin to start building a true house with a strong real foundation!
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