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« on: April 05, 2018, 11:08:02 AM »

Hello!

I thought maybe one of you could help me calm down as I'm going nuts waiting on a reaction from my ex and maybe you do have some ideas to fix the mistakes I've made in the past weeks... .
I'm thankful for any feedback!

As you've read maybe, in my previous post, (https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?topic=323415.0) I was so hurt when he told me that he had a date with anther girl that l told him politely that l needed space and went no contact for several days. First he understood, but he started feeling ignored when he saw me on social media the same night.
My biggest mistake was not answering when he was reaching out to me, telling me l didn't care about him anyway.
A few days later l just told him again that I'll be back when I'm ready instead of reacting on his messages. I guess right now he really hates me and thinks l really don't care... . He called me selfish and said our friendship won't work out and he doesn't have time for people like me. He has blocked me on Saturday and I'm still blocked 6 days later... .I'm feeling so bad that l tried taking time focusing on myself now!

I was hoping we could rekindle our relationship but right now it's all about not losing him as a friend. He lives so far away that l don't have a chance of a face to face conversation.

So, I sent a letter to him, telling him that l understand my behaviour must've seemed as if l didn't care, explaining that l just did that to have time to accept that he's seeing other people and that l didn't mean to hurt him. The letter is a positive one, telling him that I'm better now and that I'm sorry l didn't accept that it's over earlier, saying l believe in our friendship, asking him why we shouldn't just still do all the things we've planned. I'm scared he'll feel devalued when he's reading this... .
I also sent him a little message yesterday, telling him that there's a letter on its way. He didn't react at all. Didn't even block my second account or something, just keeps using his social media as if l don't exist.

I'm just waiting for the letter to arrive, thinking I've written it in such an insensitive way, way too positive for the whole situation when I'm reading it now... .The whole thing is a lie actually, because I'm truly suffering because we're out of touch and l don't know what to do if he means it and doesn't want me in his life anymore. I'm missing him every minute and I'm struggling to not text him again. I was just begging and crying so much after our breakup 7 months ago that l wanted to stop that clingy behaviour and be strong finally. Faking it until l make it was the plan... .

Any advice on how to handle this situation and help him see that l still care would be so appreciated!

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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2018, 01:24:01 PM »

 I've just been unblocked - without him saying anything... .but still, I'm seeing this as a good sign of him calming down... .I hope my letter won't ruin anything now.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2018, 03:54:58 PM »

Hi FaithfulInLove,

I wouldn't worry about the letter, you wrote it in a positive tone? I wouldn't do anything the best thing to do is wait until he does something if you do anything else at this point it's there's a good chance that it's going to push him away. Sometimes the best thing to do is absolutely nothing - he probably knows that he can have a r/s with you on his terms.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2018, 02:12:14 AM »

We tend to overanalyze and find things to pick at when we keep looking at a text message we sent or letter we sent. We nitpick and find faults when there might not be anything there. I am guilty for this. You can look at my posts on how unsure I am and need reassurance.
im sure your letter was a positive one and it was thoughtfully planned. You did everything on your end and time is a virtue right now. Do you have any hobbies, activities you can do to keep yourself busy? Any friends and family to hang out with?

You put your feelings first and I would have done the same if my person went on a date with someone else. You did nothing wrong in my opinion. If someone is not putting me a priority, I would want to have distance to move on and heal no matter how its going to hurt. Its going to hurt more seeing the person you love with someone else and you being "just friends" with them. You're only lying to yourself and doing a huge disservice to yourself if you are friends when you want more. Just something to ponder about. Once again, I want to mention that you did nothing wrong by putting yourself first. Your human and have feelings and are entitled to those feelings. Most BPD's are not okay with space.

You keep mentioning you want to bring him back, but deep down are you okay seeing him fall in love with someone? Are you okay with being sidelined as just a friend? Are you still planning on going on this trip with him?
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2018, 05:43:23 AM »

I wouldn't worry about the letter, you wrote it in a positive tone?
He probably knows that he can have a r/s with you on his terms.
When someone absolutely hates you, never wants to talk to you again and then reads a positive letter from you, where you're suggesting to make the plans happen you've planned before he started hating you... .l don't really know if that was right or insensitive, but I'll just give him time to think about it. The letter can arrive every minute now - l can't take it back anyway, you're right that l shouldn't be worrying now. Thank you!

Before l left the conversation l told him we're over when he starts meeting other girls. I said it in a nice way though. I was so hurt but just set clear boundaries in my messages, not freaking out and saying things I'd regret later. If he trusts my words he really thinks that I'm fighting for our friendship now.

Do you have any hobbies, activities you can do to keep yourself busy? Any friends and family to hang out with?

You keep mentioning you want to bring him back, but deep down are you okay seeing him fall in love with someone? Are you okay with being sidelined as just a friend? Are you still planning on going on this trip with him?
I'm distracting myself with studying at the moment and at least for this week l have my family around. That helps a lot!
It all hurts me, yes, but the thought of never seeing him again hurts me the most. I think I'll get used to it if he will have another relationship rather than losing a person l learned to love that much, whose been my life for a year. We've promised each other to be friends always and that's what l want to happen.

I'd try to move on if he found a new girlfriend, but he's having a hard time finding someone because his anxious needy nature is pushing women away fast. Last time he found someone she had enough after a week.
All this time he never said he doesn't love me anymore, so l hope that those are nothing but rebound relationships and that we'll find our happy ending if he realises that l am someone he can actually trust, who doesn't wanna hurt him.

I see that it's his illness that separated us, that the feelings are still there but that he's having heavy trust issues, that he'd rather find someone new than trusting someone again who was once acting selfish during our relationship.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2018, 11:12:42 AM »

He broke up with me 7 months ago because he was feeling unimportant and abandoned because l had plans without him on a day he wanted to spend with me.

I can understand the reason why you’re waiting if his  r/s’s are going to be rebounds. I read your previous post to find out why you broke up. It’s all or nothiking thinking do you think that it’s a reasonable reason for him to be looking for other women because you didn’t have time for him on a day that he want d to spend with you? Why not just spend time together on a different day where you’re both available. I agree with CryWolf, it would be a disservice to yourself if you’re friend zoned and you have romantic feelings for him.

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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2018, 01:12:27 PM »

Do you think that it’s a reasonable reason for him to be looking for other women because you didn’t have time for him on a day that he want d to spend with you? Why not just spend time together on a different day where you’re both available.

I think it's part of the illness to overreact and break up because you're horribly hurt over something that might seem like a tiny reason to everyone around. I was trying to make compromises and see him on another day, but he felt put second and just said it was over.
My mistake then was starting to beg and cry to get him back, to apologise, for months until he had a new girl. l barely knew anything about his illness so l thought it was all my fault, that it was really me being too selfish.

He felt in control all the time and lost respect for me. I think we have another chance if he sees I'm not that crying wreck anymore. If he sees there's still something inside of me of the woman he fell in love with, if that makes any sense? Why would he want to built up new trust with someone who is just crying all the time? I'm in therapy myself to get better after this heavy breakup.

The reason why I think that everything he starts now are rebound relationships is because he was saying himself that he doesn't know what he wants. Maybe I'm lying to myself, I just see that he's desperately looking for someone new while I know he still has presents from me in his bedroom and we still were planning to meet up and see if we still have a chance only a few weeks ago.
I guess he still cares. It was his longest relationship and mine as well. I think it'll take some more time for us to get over this - while l'm still hoping we can work this out.

And it might sound weird but l really wanna stay in touch no matter what. I care about him and would love to be there for him. I just love the whole person he is, l know his good sides and our friendship would give me a lot (if he just could stop testing me with his social media postings... .)
I would have to work a lot on myself so l wouldn't get hurt over his new relationships and maybe find a new boyfriend myself. But right now I'm still believing too much, wanting to save us until all hope is lost.

I'm thankful for your advice. It means a lot to feel less alone with all this after everything that happened.
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2018, 05:08:48 AM »

Hello!

I'm sorry for spamming this thread, l can't stop my thoughts from spinning.
I'm full of fear that he'll just never talk to me again.

I was wondering if leaving him space now really the best thing to do?
I can't tell if the letter has arrived yet so l don't know if he's ignoring it or if he's still waiting.
 
He's been posting stuff about "some exes being too bitter" on his social media, l guess he's still thinking that I'm being childish.

I don't wanna push him away... .Just after l have been the one who asked for space in the first place, l was wondering if carefully trying to get back in touch with him wouldn't be the right thing to do? A tiny text message so he sees I'm thinking of him and still care?

We never have stopped talking for such a long time. I thought I'd rather ask for opinions here first, because I'm overwhelmed and can't think clear anymore in this whole situation.
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2018, 06:02:21 AM »

Faithful,

I can feel the pain you’re going through, and I’m so sorry.  However, I think texting him or contacting him now would be overkill.  You wrote him the letter... .the ball is in his court.

Give him time.  We can’t make people do/feel how we want them to.  We can only offer to be there if they want to come back, if that’s what you’d like to do.

In the meantime, try to get busy and pass the time doing some fun and worthwhile things for you.

Peace,

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2018, 08:54:31 AM »

 Hello Stixx44!

Thank you for not leaving me alone in this situation. I'll follow your advice because it sounds like the best thing for now!
 
l still consider reaching out to him next week when l can be sure the letter is there, because... .

maybe he is still trying to give me the space l've been asking for and is scared that he'll be ignored again when he's reaching out? (Because my last message included "Thank you for giving me time", not "I'm ready to talk again".
Or maybe he really thinks l don't care and that our friendship isn't that important to me after my letter was such a positive one instead of saying I'm scared to lose him after what I've done (stepping away and only caring about myself)? He is used to a lot of emotional begging from my side and that I'm suddenly changing so much might scare him... .(He's been asking me a lot if I was okay the past months when l was trying to pressure him less, told me l was different)

Maybe a small message, showing him that talking again is wanted from my side would make things easier for him?

Do you understand my doubts or am l just thinking too much and it really is his turn?

I just think that if l was him and if l was so scared of being ignored, l wouldn't text a person who could ignore me and hurt me again... .splitting that person black, saying she's bitter and doesn't care seems much easier! My letter is ending with "Get back to me anytime" that's no promise that I'll be there to reply... .
Maybe unblocking me, giving me the chance to reach out first is his kind of answering... ?
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2018, 09:29:47 AM »

Okay, I'm heartbroken... .on his social media he's laughing about how his exes "usually come back to him begging... ."
Can someone help me understanding this man? What is he expecting? And will he ever talk to me again if l don't come begging?
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2018, 09:45:04 AM »

Hi,

It's confusing at times, I don't know what my pwBPD is thinking.

You are getting good advice here, keep up good self care, go out w friends,family that support you.
When I want to do or say something, if it feels Urgent! That is a big red flag to me to relax, chill, re think it. 
When I get desperate, I am about to do something I will regret... .

There is nothing wrong with pausing.

He can call or text you.

I have stopped all chasing behaviour.

It doesn't feel right for me to pursue.

My boundary is, I will respond in kind.

If he texts me, I will respond to that, within 24 hours.

It is good for me to have behaviour that shows myself, self respect.

It's a muscle, a skill, am learning.

I refuse to chase him on social media.  I won't look at it.

I have to take care of myself, I am codependent.

be gentle with yourself!

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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2018, 09:55:21 AM »

Juju, thank you!

This might be the best advice... .

I just can't stop wondering - is there a chance he'll reach out to me again someday soon? That we'll still see each other in a month like we had planned... ?
I must concentrate on my finals, but everything on my mind is him, our friendship and the love l still feel
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2018, 09:59:36 AM »

No one can read the future.  Again, it’s up to him, not you.  You’ve done all you can.  His response should show you that he’s a bit full of himself.

Give yourself at least a week to do... .nothing.  Take a breath.  Step away from all of it.

We only have so much time in this life.  Spend your time with people who care about you now.  The rest will fall into place, but you need to step back now.  Hard, but doable.

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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2018, 10:03:31 AM »

Thank you, stixx44!

I see over the months l was going through hell, begging and believing in us he's completely lost his respect for me... .that's really hurtful to realise... .
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2018, 10:55:04 AM »

It's o.k.

I can't go in to self loathing.

I need to be kind, gentle, loving towards myself.

Sometimes it helps me, if I pretend my best friend is going thru this, what would I say to her?
Say "that" to myself.

Write it down.

I have to get this stuff out.  Call a trusted friend, say, I just want you to listen.

If i can get it all out, whatever there is for me, by writing, talking to a closed mouth friend (not a family member)  by posting here, I can can get that destructive stuff out.

Me second (third, fiftieth) guessing my self, tears me down.

Go through, walk through, keep going.

This is a marathon, not a sprint... .!

you have an entire community here who cares about you.!

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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2018, 01:11:20 PM »

This is so so sweet, Juju, thank you for your advice!
I'm seeing the disrespectful things he writes as tests which l mustn't react to in a negative way.
I'll stay all silent and follow your words. Thank you!
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2018, 06:24:28 PM »

Okay, I'm heartbroken... .on his social media he's laughing about how his exes "usually come back to him begging... ."
Can someone help me understanding this man? What is he expecting? And will he ever talk to me again if l don't come begging?


Hey Faithful. With BPD we never know tbh. It could be him punishing you. My ex did the same. On her social media she was constantly posting "i want romance, I want intamacy" yet the past months before our breakup she was telling me "im not an affectionate person" and we broke up because i wanted romance and she didnt. So her posting everything was a big slap in my face. Their social media is completely opposite of what they tell you and act like.

Try not to look on his social media anymore. its easier said than done, and its going to take you a while. But it just hurts you more than does good. My ex now posts pictures of my fave basketball player, or jokes we used to make but tags her classmates. its a big ___ you to me. but whatever. I dont know what she wants to gain from it.
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2018, 06:22:20 AM »

Hey CryWolf,

that's really cruel of her and reminds me of what l had to read on his social media the past months. You're right and l agree it might be the best for me to stop reading all that, just - it kind of is the only connection l have left to him, l wanna know if he's okay, what he's up to... .and these "punishing" comments they make me see that I'm not forgotten... .do you understand that crazy addiction?
(I'm sorry, the link doesn't work for me - is it one of your threats?)

I wanna follow everyone's advice of staying out of touch for a while. Will talk about all this with my therapist in a few days, because staying away, saying nothing is horribly hard for me while l just should be enjoying this time... .
I'm still wondering if l shouldn't send him a short message that talking would be okay for me again to make it really clear and so l can calm down, knowing that l REALLY did everything l could. One last text to make him see l still care and WANT this friendship without sounding desperate. I still wanna give him some time to talk to me first, but maybe next week, if nothing has happened until then, so that his fear of being ignored again won't make him avoid reaching out... ?
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2018, 09:51:04 AM »

Let me ask this.

Do you feel calm or desperate.

Sometimes we have to listen to my body.

Calm.  It may be ok to reach out.  Think about it for a couple of days.pause... .  time is your friend.

Desperate.  I have to step back.  In this mode, I am chaotic, and i will regret it.  It's time for me to journal.  Write down what you want to day.  Write, write, write it all out.  (Dont text)

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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2018, 10:37:12 AM »

Let me ask this.

Do you feel calm or desperate.

To be honest, I'm desperate and not just now but for months and I'm just waiting for my next appointment with my therapist while friends and family get tired of listening... .

I've showed him how desperate l am... .half a year l didn't do anything after work but lying in bed crying,  thinking about our memories, telling him everyday that l don't wanna go on without him, waiting for his answers... .

Since January I'm acting calmer... .but I'm not. I'm dragging myself out, I'm trying to be happy, but still I'm feeling torn, especially now that l fear being split black forever.

I honestly started calming down when we started planning our meet up next month cause l thought things would turn out right if we only see each other again and have the chance to talk face to face finally after all this drama.

But the things he wrote on social media - talking about dating apps and everything while he still said to me he still has feelings for me and we can work things out maybe - it never really let me calm down.

I'm crying everyday. I'm thinking about nothing else. I wanna fix things so bad so that l can calm down again... .I wanna hear that he didn't mean it when he said that our friendship doesn't work out and I'm scared, so scared that he'll say it again or just never talk to me again.

The only reason that I'm not texting him right now is that l don't wanna push him away further, like you all say, I'm trusting your words - while I'm thinking he might be waiting for me to say I'm sorry and fight for him to come back again, like l always did.
If fighting brought our friendship back I'd do it, immediately... .But l don't wanna make another wrong move. 

I wanna stay in touch with him - desperately.
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2018, 11:11:49 AM »

Hey Faithful,
Im not sure if you still follow my story, but I completely know why you are looking at his social media. To find any connection with him. Its all you have. To hopefully see something about you to calm your anxiety. Sadly 95% you wont. People tailor their social media to look happy in life. You may never know what he truly feels. This was hard and is still hard for me to accept. I want to know I meant something. But looking back on events, I know I did for her. I realized all those dumb fights, was her wanting me closer. How she mostly picked fights with me than other people meant she felt the most connection with me.

I used to text and call and overpursue to apologize just to make the relationship work too. But now it doesnt work, so we need to do a new approach. Giving him space and time is counterintuitive. We think they think we dont care, or we have to just show them. It wont work right now. You sent him a letter, and texted him. That shows a lot. I relate with you, because I did the same. I still want to. But its not working and we need to have a different approach.
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2018, 11:50:30 AM »

Despair for me is key.  It's a useful response, I am not taking good care of myself.

I need self care, distraction, being around my people who love me unconditionally.

Also, what helps, is me volunteering, helping someone else during this time.

Believe it or not, that is the best thing I can do.

hang in there. 

This community is wonderful.

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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2018, 12:24:20 PM »

Despair for me is key.  It's a useful response, I am not taking good care of myself.

I need self care, distraction, being around my people who love me unconditionally.

Also, what helps, is me volunteering, helping someone else during this time.

Believe it or not, that is the best thing I can do.

hang in there. 

This community is wonderful.

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Nothing good comes out of despair. You start to think irrational, and a bit selfish although what you want is unselfish. Try to stay busy and productive in anyway you can. Last night I was longing like crazy for my ex. I decided to go to the movie theatre alone at 10pm. Movie sucked, but doing things alone slowly build character and make you stronger. Yes, after the movie the thoughts came back. But for the 2-3 hours inbetween I wasnt thinking about her so much.
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2018, 02:30:04 PM »

Thank you, juju and thank you CryWolf! I'm feeling your support and it really keeps me going!


I'm waiting, seeing what will happen at least until Tuesday. Maybe things already look differently until then!

I'm still considering that one last message to let him know that the space I've been asking for is not wanted anymore. If I do it in a tone that's not desperate but caring, I don't think it'll make things worse - or am I wrong?
At least he has unblocked me a day after my last message... .that makes me think!
Why should he unblock me if he doesn't want me to be the one who reaches out again?

If he's trying to punish me - and I really hope he's just punishing me and doesn't really wanna end this friendship - I don't wanna let him know how much I'm hurting, but I want him to know that I still care, because I think that's the thing he's doubting at the moment and why he considers to stop talking at all... .because I'm not reacting like I used to. Because he might think if I cared, I'd keep begging like always.

Do you understand my thoughts? I know there are persons who suffer BPD who REALLY disappear out of their loved ones lives. That's scary. If he thinks I don't care, he does have a reason... .I'd even understand it!
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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2018, 02:45:04 PM »



I'm waiting, seeing what will happen at least until Tuesday. Maybe things already look differently until then!

I'm still considering that one last message to let him know that the space I've been asking for is not wanted anymore. If I do it in a tone that's not desperate but caring, I don't think it'll make things worse - or am I wrong?
At least he has unblocked me a day after my last message... .that makes me think!
Why should he unblock me if he doesn't want me to be the one who reaches out again?

Do you understand my thoughts? I know there are persons who suffer BPD who REALLY disappear out of their loved ones lives. That's scary. If he thinks I don't care, he does have a reason... .I'd even understand it!

What do you have planned on Tuesday?

Its great that he unblocked you! But if you send him another message, what if he blocks you again?

I completely understand when an ex unblocks you and you feel like they want you to reach out. My ex would do the same. Blocked me on iphone. Then hours later im unblocked and I'd reach out and be happy I was unblocked. Looking back now, it doesnt feel great to be at someones disposal like that. Being happy to be unblocked by someone you love? I know it has to hurt. Just my speculation on my self.  I had this thinking for a while too. But its safe to say if your ex unblocked you, their emotions are a bit "raw" and dispersing. So give it some more time and allow their feelings to thaw. You've sent multiple messages in my opinion. He knows you care. But he needs to care enough to reach out to you. You still sending multiple messages may not be begging, but it still comes off in that manner. I dont mean any disrespect by this, and I have done this myself. I think you want to keep reaching out to soothe your own anxiety. You've already told him you didnt want the space anymore, and continue to show him that. It seems like he is punishing you now by enforcing this "space".

I mean this with care, I think you should give him some more time. Let him come to you and genuinely miss you. You've done the pursuing, apologizing, letters, messages.

And yes, reading other peoples stories on their BPDpartner is scary. The stories on here are scary and thought provoking and you build scenarios in your head and then have this "one size fits all" mindset. But no. you need to stop, even though it becomes so easy to generalize all people with BPD the same. They are not. They are all people, but all individuals of their own being and morals. I read so many cheating, lyning stories on here that I was driving myself crazy. But a part of loving someone is trusting them and knowing their true nature and giving them the benefit of the doubt. Thats what love is about. And if they do let you down, thats not a reflection of who you are. There is nothign wrong with you if they cheat or lie or hit you, etc. 
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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2018, 04:46:33 PM »

Thank you, CryWolf!

What do you have planned on Tuesday?
Its great that he unblocked you! But if you send him another message, what if he blocks you again?
I know that my ex is a bit busy with his hobbies today and on Monday, so most likely he won't have time to miss me and my message would be nothing but annoying for him and that's what I wanna avoid.
Also I gonna see my therapist on Tuesday and I'd like to hear his opinion on this whole matter - which doesn't mean I don't care about yours. I'm really thankful about the support here and it calms me down so much that people who have experienced similar things are here giving me their opinions! Thank you! It's so appreciated that you're taking time to help me!
Most likely he'll tell me the same as juju did, that I should take time to take care of myself, stop thinking about him so much.
 
If my ex blocks me again... .I don't know, I think he wouldn't do that if I don't send out a pressuring message - which I won't do of course!
I think he'd rather take the chance to
1. just ignore me - which would show me he wants punish me and make me think he doesn't care... .
2. try to start/continue a fight - and block me then - which would show me that he's still upset and I can actually really bury the plans we've made for next month... .
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3. just reply carefully (most likely still talking to me in a testing way)

I really need to be prepared for everything and should know how to react so my own despair doesn't ruin things when we're communicating. Reaching out could help me with becoming more clear about what's going on inside of him.
(I'm quite sure the letter is already there - I think I've been explaining my side too much in it and I've been way too positive about our friendship, I spend 2 days writing it, but I guess it still was invalidating... .)
 
What worries me is that we have never been out of touch for such a long period of time. Because I always reached out, showing him that I care. Promising that I'll prove him that he can trust me... .I'm really insecure and yes, really anxious. I don't wanna lose him because I'm "too stubborn" to text him now - although there is so much to say.

You've sent multiple messages in my opinion. He knows you care. But he needs to care enough to reach out to you.

It seems like he is punishing you now by enforcing this "space".

I hope you don't see my answers as not cherishing your replies? Because I really do! I just wanna find out what's the best thing to do in this specific situation, that's why I'm discussing them like this. I believe that staying away for a while can be the best thing in most situations when communicating with a pwBPD, just I'm not sure if it really is the best thing here, when he is splitting me black because from his point of view I'm someone who doesn't care anyway. Staying away doesn't change that, but could make him feel that he's right.

Our "fights" - or him punishing me because I broke his trust - are going on for such a long period of time now that I'm not sure how much of the good memories are really left inside of him and if he will miss me enough to reach out - maybe only the hurtful memories are left? I'm scared he wants to stay no contact because for months I have been judging him so much for his hurtful actions and was pushing  him to decide what he wants. I am learning about his illness now, am able to handle things better. The last time I sent him a pressuring message is 2 months ago and he has noticed the changes, interpreting them as "she doesn't care anymore".
When you think about the illness - persons who suffer from BPD often really believe what they're saying, even if it's irrational. And if he sais that he thinks I don't care, I think that not reaching out to him could be a problem here when feeling abandoned already was the reason for him to break up in the first place. I don't wanna push him further away with reaching out, but compared to what he's used from me, waiting until the letter MUST HAVE arrived and then sending out a small message showing that I care is still just a little sign - which could make things better... ?

They are all people, but all individuals of their own being and morals

I agree 100% - that's why I don't just wanna use the - "don't reach out and they'll come back when they've cooled down"-rule. Because there is no rule and "they" are people like me and you. Smiling (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2018, 05:56:12 PM »

You are logical.

None of what you know will help.

You really want to listen to people w experience.

I wish I did!

I didn't even know about this site, for our 10 yr relationship.

This is one place where experience means something

The other thing, pwBPD have excellent memories, intuition, all those things... .

Trust me, he probably knows exactly how you are reacting, esp because of the fb posts... .

My only hope is changing my behaviour...   if i keep being the same and getting the same results... .

I am changing, he is changing.  It's a lot better now, even though we are living apart.

I wish I had this community sooner.
It's totally up to you.

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« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2018, 04:01:54 AM »

Thank you, juju!

I really don't know what is right or wrong.
I'm listening to your advice but I'm still considering trying to reach out really carefully if nothing happens from his side.
It's awful to be out of communication and my biggest fear that we'll stay that way. I don't know how to work on a relationship or friendship if we're not communicating at all.
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« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2018, 01:42:28 PM »

Facebook told me he's back together with his 1 week ex... . l read that and fainted, honestly... .

Any advice how to stay friends now? I still wanna see him so bad... .but not her... .

I'd be thankful for any kind of support
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